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Poster: Reade Date: Jan 21, 2013 7:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Importance of Attending a Show: Part II

A part-owner of the Pittsburgh Pirates, he couldn't bear to watch the climatic 7th game of the 1960 World Series against the powerful New York Yankees. He traveled to Paris to escape the tension, and later enjoyed essentially a video recording of the TV broadcast of the improbable Pirate victory- that he had arranged to be made in his absence. This exists today as the only complete record of that most historic game.
Ahead of his time to say the least.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/24/sports/baseball/24crosby.html?_r=0

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 21, 2013 9:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Importance of Attending a Show: Part II

Very cool. Thanks for posting. And Dick Groat may have been the best athlete ever to come from Duke. My dad's hero and best gift I ever gave him was a Groat rookie baseball card for father's day one year.

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Poster: Reade Date: Jan 21, 2013 10:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Importance of Attending a Show: Part II

Glad you enjoyed it.

Unlike Lou Gehrig, who through an amazing coincidence actually ended up coming down with Lou Gehrig's disease, Groat has yet to contract the disease named after him.
Oh wait, that one was fictional.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Groats%20Disease

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Jan 21, 2013 1:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Importance of Attending a Show: Part II

Lou Gehrig getting Lou Gehrig's disease. Wow, what are the odds? He should have considered himself the luckiest man on the face of the earth.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jan 21, 2013 10:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Importance of Attending a Show: Part II

That was very interesting article,I had no idea that game was missing from the MLB archives,I have seen the video of the Mazerowski home run countless times.It indeed was one of the greatest World Series games ever played in that it ended with a bottom of the ninth homer in game 7 that defeated the almighty Yankees.
I knew Bing was owned a piece of the team,but the whole listening on the radio in Paris/taping the tv broadcast will forever be an odd footnote to a great game.

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Poster: Reade Date: Jan 21, 2013 1:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Importance of Attending a Show: Part II

The footage you've seen of that game, Berra racing back to the wall, (the radio broadcast: "Back to the wall goes Berra"...), Maz circling the bases, etc., are excerpted from newsreel clips of the game much like the famous Willie Mays catch in the '54 series. Which is the extent of the nature of the footage that tends to exist from that era. No sound of course.

There's precious little of recorded TV broadcasts from back then, and what does exist seems to do so only miraculously. The Don Larsen game from 1956 mentioned in the Times article- recorded exactly the same way Crosby had his game preserved -was done so by the Armed Forces for purposes of eventual rebroadcast to our service men and women overseas. And only then did it happen that somebody found the original (actually four of the five reels) at an estate sale in 1990 and from there it eventually made it's way to ESPN for broadcast and then to MLB.

Those kinescope recordings off of the TV were both cumbersome and expensive. As the article briefly explained, one had to actually hire somebody to set up essentially a video camera in front of a TV screen. Both these instances make clear there needed to be great incentive to produce one of these things.

Incidentally, Forbes Field, where that 7th game in 1960 was played no longer exists but the site is now a part of the campus of the University of Pittsburgh, which has gone to some lengths to honor that great day when Maz' drive sailed over the left field wall as Yogi helplessly watched.

http://deadballbaseball.com/?p=52

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jan 21, 2013 4:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Importance of Attending a Show: Part II

That was really cool of the university to pay homage to Forbes Field and the players with that brick wall and the plaques.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 21, 2013 11:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Importance of Attending a Show: Part II

HA! Had no idea- thanks.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Jan 21, 2013 11:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Importance of Attending a Show: Part II

Re: that most historic game

"Crosby knew he would want to watch the game later — if his Pirates won — so he hired a company to record Game 7 by kinescope, an early relative of the DVR, filming off a television monitor. The five-reel set, found in December in Crosby’s home, is the only known complete copy of the game, in which Pirates second baseman Bill Mazeroski hit a game-ending home run to beat the Yankees, 10-9. It is considered one of the greatest games ever played."

Re: my Wesleyan Univ tapes comment, the Kent State massacre, Bill Mazeroski, and "this [amazing] shit"

On the day of the Kent State shootings, May 4, 1970, major league baseball played evening games in the eastern time zone. These games would have been played AFTER the shootings. It behooves us to note that Bill Mazeroski played in one of them. Who would have attended? Mazeroski batted 3 for 5 with one RBI that evening. Teammate Roberto Clemente batted 2 for 4 with one RBI. But their Pirates lost to the Atlanta Braves, 5 to 3.

Monday, May 4, 1970, 8:05PM, Atlanta Stadium
Attendance: 7,457
Length of Game: 2:38
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ATL/ATL197005040.shtml

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Jan 23, 2013 10:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Importance of Attending a Show: Part II

Monte Barry - 2nd baseman, pitcher, lead-off batter - May 1962
played 5 years for the Elks Lodge Little League baseball team


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